Below are some of the reactions, comments and queries received via the Feedback Form. I should be very pleased to receive your own comments, queries and any information and photos you can provide relating to Sebring and other Sprites. Just go to Feedback and send your message.
Thank you.
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Subject/Comment |
Alan Anstead
21 Apr, 2012
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Hi,
My Frogeye was supercharged when I bought it. The item for sale on e/bay is missing some parts. The inlet looks too short for a Sprite and it would need a 1.5 H4 SU as well as an inlet manifold. The support bracket is missing as is the two v pulley wheel. Mine had an RF needle in the carb. Each winter the carb and inlet would ice up. I wrapped the inlet in asbestos rope. On many a cold evening whilst leaving the girlfriends house I had to pour boiling water over the carb to induce it to work. When the supercharger fell apart i got a recon from Adlards (of Putney) for £25. My girlfriend,by then my 1st wife, brought the unit home in her shopping bag. How times change! Alan.
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Tony Wilson-Spratt,
13 Apr 2012 |
Morning Martin, Mike Youles is certainly a busy bee - I couldn't catch up with him at Castle Combe for a natter - and interesting to see him emulating Dad with a bootlid conversion. Email from Joe Armour yesterday - I understand you got together again in Oz - and it prompted me to read about 456D again too ! Cheers Tony
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Neil Anderson, Michigan USA
2 Apr 2012 |
776 KNX & 770 KNX
Good morning Martin,
On the day I received my April issue of “Healey Marque”, with Baird Foster’s 776 KNX article published inside, I sent the link to the article from your website to the worldwide “Healey” and “Spridget” emails lists. I did not want to send this info out to members of the AHCA prior to the magazine coming out in case it spoiled their surprise of seeing the interesting article in the club magazine.
As a result of the article being published and the link sent out about 776 KNX to the Spridget list, I received two emails from a guy in Pennsylvania. The gentleman wrote, “Those of us who attended AHSTC's Encounter in 2010 had the fortunate experience of seeing this car (776 KNX) in person. We have another of the Sebring Sprites close by here in PA also.”
The second sentence piqued my interest, to say the least. I wrote him back and said that I was not aware of another Sebring Sprite in Pennsylvania and asked him if he could provide the name of the owner and more information about the car. I told him that you would be interested to receive this info also, especially if you had limited knowledge about the Sprite.
He wrote back and told me the owner is Jeff Brenner and provided his email address. Jeff is mentioned as a previous owner of the Briggs Cunningham standard bodied Sebring in the article about that car on your website.
I wrote Jeff this afternoon, see my note below, and above that is Jeff’s reply this evening, very fascinating. It appears he still owns the car and spares, but he has not yet provided the race details of when it actually raced. Before I received Jeff’s reply, I thought this car may have been the Sebring/LeMans car HNX 455D sold to Jim Prentice in 2010. It does not appear to be so. See the attached photo above.
I looked on this website http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Sebring-1966-03-26.html
and here http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Sebring-1967-04-01.html
for entries for the 1966 and ‘67 Sebring races and found the entry listing (for ’67) and photos of the Sprites that ran those years.
On the first link, it shows the photos for the Sebring Sprite entries for 1966 are #66 (HNX 456D) and #67 (HNX 455D) with the drivers listed there and verified in Geoff Healey’s book, “More Healeys”, page 138.
In the second link for 1967, it shows photos of entry #58, a standard bodied Sprite, and # 59, a closed coupe’ similar to the ’66 cars, but you cannot see a registration number in the photo. The driver listings again match Geoff Healey’s account in his book.
In the article for Joe Armour’s Works Sprite, it states that HNX 456D ran at Sebring in 1967, but says nothing about it previously running there in 1966. Unfortunately, there is no race entry list available for the ’66 race as there is for the ’67 race on that page. The race entries and car numbers in the photos for both years seem to match, but maybe there is some kind of error.
All this leads to the question of what car is Jeff’s Brenner’s Works Sprite (HAN9 R 202) and when and where did it race? Maybe you already have this information and I just spent a few hours beating my head against a wall. Or, maybe I should have waited to send this after I received more information from Jeff. At any rate, it has been fun trying to dig into this question.
We assume we will certainly be following up on this issue. I am not sure if I opened up something interesting or a can of worms.
Oh, by the way, I found a two page article in my archive from the July 1965 issue of “Road and Track” about DAC 952C that I will get scanned and send to you.
It is late. I am off to bed. All the recent updates have been great. Thanks very much.
Cheers,
Neil
From: Jeff Brenner Sunday, April 01, 2012 to Neil Anderson.
My car is HAN9 R 202. It was sold to the East Coast importer Royston after the race. He kept it until they closed in the early 80s. It then went to Florida and then to New England where I bought it. Along with it I got the spare injected Le Mans motor and the 5 speed transmission. Both of these are new and have never been in a car. My car has approx. 1100 miles on the odometer. Royston made it streetable (almost) for his wife. When I was going over the car a few years ago, I found the dayglow orange paint on a lot of the suspension pieces. Royston painted it green for his wife. I rebuilt the motor a couple of years ago, ~ not that there was anything wrong with it but it had not been run much. Everything was good but some very interesting internals were found. I took about 50 pictures of it before reassembly. The car is pictured in Bill Emerson's book. Besides the Cunningham car I also owned the Dan Marguiles Speedwell coupe. If you can think of any specific info you would want, get back to me. Jeff.Hello Jeff,
From: Neil Anderson, Sunday, April 01, 2012, to Jeff Brenner.
I was given your name and email address from Charlie Baldwin after I posted
a link to an article on the forgotten history of a works Sprite that ran at
Sebring in 1964. The article was written for the Austin-Healey Club of
America magazine "Healey Marque". Article link:
http://www.sebringsprite.com/pdf%20files/TheHunt4HealeyHistory.pdf
Charlie and I exchanged a few emails regarding Sebring/Works Sprites. He
said you own the Works Sprite in the photo that he sent me. He had seen it at Encounter 3 or 4 years ago. Do you still have it?
And if so, would you be willing to tell me more about the car and its
history? I am fairly good friends with Martin Ingall who is the webmaster
for the Sebring Sprite website and I am sure he would be interested in any
information or stories about the car that you would be willing to share.
Charlie also said you also owned for a time, a standard bodied Works Sprite
that you have since sold. I saw a reference to you on the sebringsprite.com
website in the Briggs Cunningham Sebring Sprite article.
I would enjoy hearing from you if you have the time. I am working on a
Sprinzel Sebring replica. Not like the real historic Works cars, but it is
about as close as I will get.
Kind regards,
Neil Anderson
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Ron Corry
26 Feb 2012 |
Hi, Martin,
Thank you for a wonderful site. At Sprite 50, I took nine of photos of
Alex Postan\'s Sprite FEY 678. I hope they are of interest. For me, Gaydon was absolutely one of the most memorable
days of my life, and Alex's Sprite, exuding beauty and purposeful intent, was my car of the show.
Unfortunately, the photo of the roof signatures does not show them too clearly. (Maybe you can
'improve' the pic?) They certainly made the Sprite really special, and, for me, up there with the late
Frank Clarici's signed Sprite.
Kind regards,
and thanks again.
Ron,
Co Wicklow, Ireland. |
Simon Hutchinson
16 Feb 2012 |
MG Midget BJG 840B
Hi, firstly a great site. I bought my above MG Midget a few years ago. She has an interesting competition history at the hands of her lady driver, Patricia Green (was Uren). She initially sported a supercharged 1100cc with std white bodywork and wire wheels. Then same engine but now all black with a Lenham front and what looks like an Ashley hard top. Then Pat had a prang and wrote the front end off. The car then was the 1st to have a 1600 Ford X Flow and gearbox fitted and the front steel panels re-fitted. Entered as a Fraud Midget for a couple of years then re-shelled in 72 witha brand new one from University Motors with Williams and Pritchard front wings and bonnet. Now had a Lotus Twink under the hood and 8" wide Revolutions, big brakes and numerous other tweaks. Pat retired from racing/sprinting in 74 and that's what I've got in the garage. Not with the Lotus engine and box though as that was sold to an Historic Anglia racer. After some deliberation I changed my mind about fitting one. Regards Simon.
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Mike Gaston
1 Feb 2012 |
Re: Paddy Gaston & RAM 35
Dear Martin, I was put in touch with this excellent site by Mike Wylie. I have 2 connections with Sebrings. I'm Paddy Gaston's son and was around at the time of the famous RAM 35, which was developed by serendipity. He'd taken his racing Austin A35, RER 36 to a club meeting, where it blew the engine in practice. He asked the organisers if he could use his road car, an unmodified Austin Healey Sprite with the log book registration RAM 35. The car went so well in standard form that the A35s became the toys of the past and the Sprite the development of the future. My second connection is that I owned the ex-Adrian Boyd 505 BZ in the early 70s. Delighted to have found this site. I suspect I will continue to explore and enjoy it over the years. All the best. Mike Gaston |
Joe Armour
11 Dec 2011 |
Re: 770 KNX Sprite & Steve Coleman's cars.
I think this is one of the most stylish of the earlier
Healey prepared cars. I know almost nothing of its post Healey
ownership. Have you ever spoken to David Matthews in UK. He was
preparing a book on Healeys and has a lot of original pics. and info. He
once showed me a pic. of my 3000 in the Healey workshop fitted with
trade plates. It still has the same paint pattern on the firewall and
the weld burn marks where the body support was modified to fit the
Webers. In the background was I believe 770KNX. My 3000 was 1965 and so
KNX was 'last' years car, 1964. The Sebring 3000 for 1964 was 767 KNX owned for some time by Ted Worswick and used at the Targa Florio in 1966
and 67? It is now in USA.
My Sprite: I will prepare some info and will need to be specific as
there is a guy in Texas who has the 1969 Daytona and Sebring coupe along
with the only roadster which was raced by US entrants at Sebring in
1970. Neither of these two cars were entered or raced by Healeys, but
were sold off to the USA distributor when the BMC contract was
terminated. The owner, Steve Coleman, has had the car for a few years
but cannot find a history for the coupe and therefore as it is fuel
injected he assumes it is the 1968 LeMans car. In fact it was a 'new'
chassis intended to be part of a two car entry for 1968, but I guess
finances and the BMC contract meant it was not completed for Le Mans. There
are pictures of it as a bare body/chassis in the background of several
pics of the SR.37 car being built.
The Coleman coupe has several body features that differ from the 1968
LeMans pics and my car. I have a copy of the Le Mans entry form with my
eng. no. I have a copy of the R.A.C. check sheet that verifies the
bore and stroke to my eng. no. and I have two of the signs that were
on display with the car at the London Earls Court Motor Show. Plus
Roger Menadue spoke to Ian Polley and I on two seperate occasions, once
when inspecting the car. I am convinced, ~ I just have to put together the
above info and describe the body differences to Steve Coleman.
Joe
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John Sprinzel
27 Nov 2011 |
Re: Homologation
I see the 'certificate' on H221 states that " front disks not Girling" That is actually not true, at least in original form. All three cars had
Girling disks with Dunlop wire wheels, as this was the conversion sold
by us at Grosvenor Street, and obviously we would not have used anything
other than Healey Speed Equipment on our team cars. Earlier DH Sprite
racers had the four-wheel Dunlop disk brakes, but these gave a different
width, which was actually the track measured by Warwick for the Form of
Recognition. They measured the Sebring/Le Mans Falcon car, which had the
Dunlops. This caused some scrutineering dramas in later historic events,
which had folks who actually measured the track. Later production
Spridgets of course, used the Lockheeds, which may have been on the car
when 'certified'. In my day, they did take off the cylinder head to
check capacity but I cannot ever recall anyone measuring the track.
Using the Falcon for the weight figures though was great, as I don't
think anyone managed to get down to that very light bodywork - Jack
Wheeler's later Sprite maybe, but that was so un-Spritely that it
certainly never qualified under FIA GT regs. except as a Group Four car.
Oddly enough, the group three regs were very, very strict on
modifications, and were based on what you could do under the Production
Saloon Group 2 mods, which was why Geoff and I had to homologate the
Sebring (or rather the 'Special Sprite' as only my own cars were ever
called Sebrings, no British manufacturer could use the name of a race
or rally on their production cars according to the rules of the Motor
Manufacturers Association, unlike the Yanks, who use model names like
Monte Carlo, Sebring, Daytona and such with impunity) so that we could
do stuff to the cars. Anything beyond that put you in with the Group
Four Sports car category, where any sort of Sprite was hard put to be
competitive.
cheers J
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Jerry Etzel,
27 Nov 2011
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re: DHMC hardtops
Martin,
Regarding DHMC hardtop source:
A friend of mine has a fiberglass business in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Several years ago I asked him to look at my DHMC top to see what it would cost to reproduce. In the end, the project was cancelled.
Cost to construct a mold was $1500 USD. (If I recall correctly there are 7 pieces to mold) Each top would be $500 USD.
The price was for the shell only. Front clips, rear mounting brackets, rear screen and weather stripping still had to be sourced.
The three people that asked me to produce a top were not willing to invest the required dollars to make this work.
I fear that there are not enough potential customers to make this a viable commercial venture. On top of all the fabrication costs, freight cost of transporting such a large item would make international shipping impractical.
Sincerely,
Jerry Etzel
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John Sprinzel,
26 Nov 2011
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re: H221
Doing really well thank you, and it is always great to hear from you, and this time to be reminded of the origins of the Sebrings with our three team 221 cars.
They were prepared by Paul Hawkins, Reg Venner and myself at the Healey Speed Equipment Division, which I was lucky enough to run in Mayfair, to a specification which Geoff Healey and I dreamed up at Warwick prior to getting it Homologated by the FIA in time to run at the 1960 RAC, where it was rewarded with second overall. The Liege success in September with John Patten's car, was to that spec. and was run as a Sebring although that event did not require homologation and - as you know later became a full coupe under Mike Reid's ownership. We also prepared the work's Sebring Sprites for Pat Moss to use on the RAC and the Corsica rallies, and these two cars were later purchased by Ian Walker and David Seigle-Morris to be built into two of the full GT bodied versions. (if you are publishing this, there are two good pix on p67 and68 in Spritely Years of the Grosvenor workshops).
My car, Cyril's, Andrew Hedges', Ian's and David's were built at W & P. Chris Williams, Doug Wilson Spratt, Mike Reid and Jack Wheeler had their cars built at Peels. Of course, lots of other Sprites were built to Sebring Specifications but without the alloy GT tops.
My PMO200 (the second permanent Sprite to use this number, after the first became the prototype Speedwell GT) ran as X221 in the races that year, though this was actually the reg.no of our black Lambretta scooter which was the paddock 'run around' and was also used for parts collection at Healey's in Grosvenor Street, to get through the London traffic with a little speed. Incidentally, Stirling also used a scooter in London, as he lived behind the Hilton off Park Lane, on the other side of the park, and used it to come to the Mews for his Sebring seat fitting.
Cyril and David had actually raced Borgward saloons the previous year - I think also with Tommy Bridger - and these became their tow cars for the race Sprites. Cyril was sales manager at Metcalf and Mundy, the Borgward importers and was a really great friend of mine from the early Speedwell days.
Take care, and have a great holiday season.
Aloha, John.
PS. By the way I have just heard the sad news that Dick Bensted Smith died earlier this year. Dick was very much involved in the Sebring Sprite history as my co-driver on the '58 Liege-Rome-Liege and on the 1960 RAC Rally. He was Deputy Editor at the Motor and in 1951 he published my first ever writings about a trip to Europe in my home built Triumph Super Seven 'sports car" in 1951, long before rallying became my sport. His stories in the Motor on those two rallies and his trip with me on the Greek Acropolis Rally in an MG twin-cam were all quite hilarious. He later became Motor's editor and then founded and ran the Newspress business in the industry for many years. He had also been chairman of the Guild of Motoring Writers. (Google has more stuff, but fails to mention he was first married to English cricketer Sir Percy Fender's daughter - Autocar editor Peter Garner and I were guests at that wedding)
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Stephen Bowen 18 Nov 2011
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Re: 410 EAO and WJB 707
(see Jim Lowry's message 10th Oct, below)
Morning Martin
It was interesting reading Jim Lowry’s letter. I have a similar problem with WJB707. When I first owned it in the sixties it was not worth anything. BMC Competitions said it was a good donor auto with a few good bits on it. I had to use it daily as it was my only car. I put a thin aluminium firewall behind the seat as the rear was completely open to the tank. At the time I could not fit a roll cage as this was strengthening to the chassis and was not allowed. I shared the car with a friend for Autocross and sprints and used it for hillclimbs and rallycross myself as well as driving 70.000 miles a year in it.
With the restoration it was difficult to decide what to do as it was the only car with the original alloy body so we only replaced the inner front wings and lower corner of the rear wings and I still have the original bits. We decided to paint it inside and out one colour to look better. The original car was white where the original steel panels were used, plain unpainted alloy floors and inner wings, etc and the rest matt or gloss black. The outside was painted gunmetal grey. The instruments and switches were all over the place mainly fixed with separate brackets and we now have a central console and small dash panel with the gauges all fitted neatly and a new cotton-covered wiring loom fitted.
The engine is always a big question mark as at the time there was a high chance that they were not legal. But it is always easy to replace engine and gearbox without having to alter the car. At the time I used it my 998cc was actually 1148cc and I know that in 1964 it had a 1230 engine in it. Cheers,
Stephen.
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John Bowman,
7 Nov 2011
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Re: New Sebring
Martin, My club mate Emrys Jones and I have started working on a new Sebring shell for him. The kit was ordered about ten weeks ago and we visited Andrew at Archers last week. As soon as it becomes interesting I will send more information and pictures. On another subject I came across the Rev Counter with the report and pictures of our French trip with David (Matthews)’s Lenham GTO in 1989. Do you still have this and do you think anyone would be interested in it? Regards John [See also Latest News, Nov, 2011] |
More from Martin Ingall
7 Nov 2011 |
Re: 2824 MV Speedwell GT
Hi once again Anthony, Spoke to John Baggott this evening and he reports as follows: Margulies competed with the car in the 1960 Liege Rome Liege Rally, with Stuart Turner, and in the Alpine Rally with Campbell-Jones. Then you say the car went to Tom Jones, before you owned it during '63 and '64. Then there is a gap in its history until Dean Donnelly took it to the States in 1980. It then had a Sebring bonnet and he raced it before selling it on to Bud Nixon. Bud had some work done on it including commissioning a new Speedwell Monza bonnet like the original. He had the car till 1999 when it passed to Brenner, and later to Dan Leonard, of Tarkton, Maryland. See photo on Latest News kindly supplied by GaryLazarus.
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Reply from Martin Ingall
7 Nov 2011 |
Re: 2824 MV
Hi Anthony, I have just been looking through Spritely Years and found an entry for 2824 MV: "DAN MARGULIES: a Speedwell GT, not a Sebring, but using a Sebring bonnet for the 1961 Tour de Corsica and subsequently. This was the bonnet from Peter Jackson's Sebring Sprite 46 BXN. Dan Margulies was then (as now [1994] ) a purveyor of high-class vintage and racing machinery, for whom Peter Jackson was working in 1961". Will see what more I can discover as I am in touch with Peter Jackson, and occasionally Tom Coulthard. Cheers Martin
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Anthony Moody
7 Nov 2011 |
Re: 138 ANY and 2824 MV
138 ANY:
Had a standard body other than having an air vent for the carburettors crafted into the original bonnet. It also had a very nice hardtop which instead of finishing immediately to the rear of the cockpit went a further fifteen inches or so over the rear. The hardtop was very well made, was the only one I ever saw, and was tastefully covered in black everflex/vinyl. I have a photograph that I will have scanned and send to you.
2824 MV: The bonnet was a Sebring, and the fastback roof and rear started at the base of the windscreen with its own roof pillars, ie, the original windscreen was removed, unlike some fastbacks (eg. Lenham) which left it in place and joined the roof with the top of the windscreen. However, when the roof sloped to the rear instead of being merged into the bodywork it had the full shape of fastback but sat on top of the original body. In summary, the work obviously started with an original car, removed the bonnet and the windscreen, then worked on the bonnet and roof. The other part of the mechanical specification I recall is that it had a high ratio rear axle of 4.5. and a friend who was working as trainee engineer in the Austin plant at Longbridge produced an 'after hours' crown wheel and pinion for me of 3.9
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Martin Ingal
l7 Nov 2011 |
Re:138 ANY and 2824 MV
[Initially I was unable to place either of these cars and asked Anthony for more information (see above).]
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Anthony Moody
5 Nov 2011 |
Re:138 ANY and 2824 MV
Dear Sir, For several years I have been trying to locate two cars owned in the past and wonder whether you know anything about them. The first was a 1958 Speedwell Sprite, registration '138 ANY', with discs brakes, wire wheels, Speedwell engine running on Amals, and had been raced under the banner 'Ecurie Chianti'. I purchased it in 1961 and sold it to the Healey Motor Co in 1962. In 1963 I purchased '2824 MV', a Sebring Sprite with fastback, Speedwell Formula Junior engine, wire wheels and disc brakes, which I sold to the Gold Seal Car Co in London in 1964. Do either of these cars feature in your records? With thanks and regards, Anthony Moody
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Jim Dougherty
27 Oct 2011 |
Re: DMC "works" hardtops
Martin, Many thanks for sending this interesting and informative reply. I have attached a photo taken in the past few days of my first trial fitting of my DMH Motor Co. top. [See Latest News] I have spent weeks stripping layers of paint off the top by hand and am nearly ready to prime and paint it.
Best regards, Jim
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Ian Grainger
27 Oct 2011 |
Re: DHMC "Works" hardtops
Dear All,
Thanks Jonathan, my mistake, I was thinking of black fabric as per the BMC sidescreens!! My Sebring Sprite, 2341 UE had light coloured fabric-covered high sidescreens when new with the black Healey hardtop.
Regards
Ian
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Jonathan Whitehouse-Bird
26 Oct 2011 |
Re: DHMC "Works" hardtops
Hi Martin,
I read with interest Ian Grainger's remarks in 'Your Comments', made on 6th October 2011, that the Healey high-sidescreen hardtop didn't use fabric covered sidescreens, and that it was only the early standard production MkI Sprite sidescreens that ever had such a fabric covering. I'm afraid I have to disagree.
On the contrary, virtually all Healey high-sidescreen hardtops were fitted with white fabric covered sidescreens and it was only towards the end of what was a very short production run, that aluminium framed, high-sidesceens were developed by the Healey Motor Co. for use with their hardtop.
It must also be remembered that the high-sidescreen hardtop was an extremely rare item at the time of its production. Generally, it was not available as a separate item (whereas the later BMC production hardtop was) and used only in conjunction with a works modified car - namely a Sebring Sprite.
See: http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/From-the-Archives-The-1960-and-1961-Seasons?page=1 (and subsequent pages for photographic evidence)
or: Page 48 in Terry Horler's excellent book - 'Original Sprite and Midget'.
Hope this helps?
Jonathan.
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Dove Orrell
23 Oct 2011
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Re: Dovid Scothorn's Lenham GTO
I know this car very well. It was built in 1971/72 by my close friend Stan Havard (sorry to disappoint). We took it to Le Mans in 1972. I think it is a 1968 car. It started life as a Frogeye, and was fitted with a Stage 1 head from a tuning firm called Taurus Eng. It later gained a Sebring bonnet from Williams & Pritchard and a set of wire wheels. A repaint in metallic blue came next, and she looked a picture. After another W&P bonnet(accident damage). Stan took her to the South of France where he managed to write her off. She was brought back to Wigan by the RAC, Stan having joined at Dover on the way. He then purchased a used Mk 2 shell via a friend of ours from Donald Healey Motor Co which was white (could have been a Mk3, wind up windows). She was rebuilt on the later shell and run for a few years as a 1098 with 2 inch mains. Now we come to the big conversion. A Lenham GTO rear with opening boot lid went on, and I think another W&P bonnet (he was getting trade discount by then).Then came the "B" series engine, mated to an MG Magnette box, ~ something to do with the clutch actuator arm side or top exit? This was, I think the reason for the complete refabrication of the tunnel, and strengthening of the floor, (seen in the pic )I don't remember much about the handling or braking, but I don't recall any particular snags. However the box was a slow change, and she did eat front shocks. (The LeMans trip saw off one set). She went well, nice and torquey. The Frogeye was a different car with one of the old four number/two letter reg's .The '68 shell came with a logbook I think.efore the engine swap Stan took his wife and small son to Dubrovnik in her, does'nt bear thinking about. Eventually she was p/xed for a Scimitar GTE for obvious reasons. The conversion would be better and much easier now, but was quite daring then and done on a strict budget. Sadly Stan left us in 1990, but with a host of wonderful memories. If ithink of anything else I will get back to you. Dave.
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| Stephen Bowen 17 Oct 2011 |
Re: Ian Walker Manifolds & WJB 707
Martin,
In addition to having his own tuning company Ian walker was an MG and Lotus dealer. He ran Formula Junior, Formula 3 and Lotus Elites as well as owning and racing the Sebring Sprite (WJB 707) for just one season. He always had good contact with the BMC Competitions Dept which is why he was offered the ex-Pat Moss rally car on which to base his Sebring. Naturally, it was important to him that his car was quicker than all the rest and as a result he held class lap records at every circuit where he raced. At the Silverstone Club circuit for the 6 hour Relay race he achieved a fastest lap of 1m 14secs ~ a whole second quicker than that of the Healey 3000 driven by John Gott! I enclose a report about Ian Walker and his letter about WJB, which he only raced in National and International events.
Regarding his manifolds, I was working for a tuning company at the time, before going to Weslakes, but there were many firms at the time producing manifolds for twin 1¼" SUs ~ usually for Minis rather than the Sprite. The Ian Walker inlet manifold (see News for Aug 2011) for a single SU was probably designed for a Mini, 1100, Morris Minor or A35 as pretty well any garage could set them up correctly. |
Butch Gilbert
17 Sep 2011 |
Re: Hugh Sutherland
Really interesting since the 53 car was the one with the broken transmission ! This is why learning the true history this many years later is a real challenge !! Thanks for sharing. Butch Gilbert |
Graeme Henderson
13 Oct 2011 |
Re: Camcoat
Martin, I have just had both Inlet and exhaust manifolds ceramic coated (see pic) by Camcoat in Warrington. I dropped them off on my way to the Goodwood Revival and they were ready for me before I got home a week later. As you can see they are already on the car and the semi matt finish of their 1000 deg C high performance racing spec finish looks good and matches the rest of the ancillaries on the engine. The exhaust manifold is coated outside and inside to get maximum effect of heat transmission away from the engine bay which eliminates the need for heat shields or wraps. I have attached a link to their web site for reference to the coatings available. www.camcoat.com All the best.
Graeme Henderson
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Ian Hulett
12 Oct 2011 |
Re: Ecurie Ecosse
I was interested to see your information on the Ecurie Ecosse Sprite. Way back in 1972 I bought a racing Sprite rolling shell from someone in Tunbridge Wells. I was an apprentice at the time so money was short. As I already had some wheels and an engine I did a deal to purchase the car less these bits. It had a full fibreglass body (Mk2 shape), painted maroon with a white hard top (not a works style one), a flimsy roll hoop, a 4.9 LSD and came with a weber 45 on a manifold. The vendor delivered it to my parents house in North London and told me it was the Ecurie Ecosse Sprite. At the time I didnt even know that there was an Ecurie Ecosse Sprite so this meant little to me. I built it up as a road / sprint car with a 1144cc engine and cloned it with the registration from my Frogeye. The chassis showed evidence of some serious damage, had received a new H frame at some time and always handled badly. After a Silverstone sprint the same year the engine swallowed a self tapping screw damaging a piston and the headThere were some unique features on this shell which I would be interested in discussing with anyone who may have modified it earlier in its life. Regards
Ian Hulett
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Jim Lowry
10 Oct 2011 |
Re: EAO
Hi Martin, Thanks for the contact. I know your excellent website very well and I often pop by for a browse. I have been using EAO for the occasional test drive but I am yet undecided quite what to do with the car. Jonathan as you know has made a really superb job of the restoration and the car is now very much as it was in 1961, except undoubtedly better. In some ways I am reluctant to mess around with it, and as you suggested it will need a certain amount of modern safety equipment fitting before I could arrive at any scrutineering bay. The twin fuel pumps mounted virtually next to the driver seat may also cause concern (and amusement among my fellow scrutineers). EAO was built as a race car, so I suppose such things will need to be attended to and indeed I think most will agree the car should be used as originally intended. Maybe the biggest dilemma is that of the engine. EAO currently has an engine very much as it would have had in period, ~ question is: Do I fit a modified 1275 engine with a Weber, etc? I have other projects on the go at this time and will consider these things before I start drilling holes. Please keep in touch, cheers Jim.
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Paul Knightley
6 Oct 2011 |
Re:Shock Absorbers
Hi, I have been reading all the histories of various Sebrings and other Sprites because I have a unusual Sprite that was built in the 1980's from a 1960 Frogeye base. It seems to have different features taken from various cars and when I read the Lumbertubs Sprite had Spax rear conversion I wondered if it came from that. The shocks are mounted vertically to turrets in the boot, and very nicely made brackets on the axlel casing. The front and rear wings are abt 4ins wider than a standard car because its fitted with 205/60 X 13 tyres that dont come outside the body with no added flared arches. The front susension is standard with Peter May up-rated levers. I'm trying to find out who built it and any history, as going through the bills there might have been some tie up with Lenham. regards Peter Knightley.
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Ian Grainger
6 Oct 2011 |
Re: Works hardtops
Hi Jim,
Martin Ingall passed on your email to me about the DMH Motor Co. hardtops to me. Firstly, I assume you are referring to the 'high' sidescreen version and not the BMC version with standard sidescreens which fitted the standard hood. I mention this because you refer to the fabric covered sidescreen frames. These were only produced to the standard sidescreen dimensions and replaced by the aluminium framed sidescreen during 1960. Returning to the 'high' sidescreen hardtop which were produced by Jensen, it appears that the first appeared during 1959 and there is a photograph of one on page 153 in 'Spritely Years' on one of the first Sebring Sprites. It has aluminium sidescreens. These hardtops did not appear in adverts until 1960 as part of the 'Healey Speed Equipment' package.
The only identification was the metal tag with number. I recently sourced a hardtop with the number 128 and the hardtop on my own Sebring Sprite is numbered 99. A number of the hardtops, including 128 had a perspex window, although the majority like mine had a glass window. I don't believe that this number were produced because of there rarity. I think the number of hardtops that were produced was nearer 50. Incidentally, the BMC hardtop also carried a metal tag with number.
I hope the above is of interest.
Regards
Ian
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Sven Eckhardt
4 Oct 2011 |
Re: Brian Archer
Dear Martin,
I found out a few days ago, Googling the Sebring Sprite, about Brian's death.
I am very sad. I had talked to Brian in 2008 about the 50 year anniversary meeting in Goodwood and he had sounded so unchanged and spritely that I can´t believe he passed away the same year.
I have talked to Andrew Forster who I know from my Birmingham days in the late 80´s and early 90´s so I know the grizzly details.
I have owned a Mark I Sprite since 1984 which I ran until 1991 which I have taken back to Germany in 1994 as well as a nearly finished Sebring Replica of Brian and a Caterham 7.
The 7 I have and am running in Germany, the Frogeye is unrestored and the Sebring has been nearing completion for the last 17 years. Typical case of unfinished project I guess.
I am making a move again though ~ honest.
I know where to get the bits and pieces that are still missing however I wonder if you know of anybody who is running a Sebing replica on the road in Germany.
I will send you photographs of my car if you are interested at all.
I think you are doing a great thing for an ever growing group of enthusiasts keep going.
Sincerely Sven.
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Paul Johnson
3 Oct 2011 |
Re: Another new Sebring Coupe
Hi Martin,
I have just started on a Mk 2 Sprite, which is to be a Sebring Coupe replica and was wondering if anyone can recommend a roll cage to fit. Thanks, in advance.
Paul
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Tony Stanton
30 Sept 2011 |
Re: RAM 35
Hi Martin,
I am Tony Stanton and I run the history database for the Rochdale Owners Club.
Would you be kind enough to give me a ring. I would like to talk with you about Sebring Sprite RAM 35.
Kind regards
Tony.
[Tony wanted to talk to me about the Minilite wheels fitted to John Britten's RAM 35 as he believes that when some of its mechanicals were transferred to SS 1800 the 6" wide wheels were used on Alex Kim's Rochdale (wider 7" ones being fitted to the Lenham). Alex was then an employee at John Britten's Garage. The Rochdale was later burnt out when its Weber carbs back-fired setting light to the fibreglass body.]
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Andrew Moynagh
28 Sept 2011
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Re: Girling brakes
I am an owner of a Turner Climax. My understanding is that the front Girling Brake assembly on my car and the Sebring Sprite were the same. That being the case the easiest way of replacing the discs is to use a Mk 1 Escort disc. This needs a small amount of machining on the inner face that goes over the hub.
Many Turner owners who have problems with calipers in fact use the calipers from the Mk 1 Escort but a new mounting bracket is needed.
See http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk go to the spares list under brakes. Let me know if I am wrong and these are not the same brake. They look like the ones in your pictures as do the pads.
Andrew
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Jim Dougherty
27 Sept 2011
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Re: Works hardtops
Martin- would you happen to have any information on approximately how many DMH Motor Co. hardtops that were used on the Sebring Sprites were actually delivered? Were there any identifying decals or tags other than the metal tag with the production number? It would appear that many of the tops were delivered with side curtains that have fabric covered frames. Were any of the side curtains all-aluminum? Thanks for your help with this. Jim
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Peter Fletcher
26 Sept 2011 |
Re: New Sebring
Just started a Speedwell Sprite replica withe the Speedwell Monza front and the fastback rear.
Based on an ex Arizona December 1961 MG Midget Mk1.
The body is now down to the chassis and has just been blasted ~ nothing drastic just a pair of floors and the battery tray that had rusted through due to misplaced battery acid !
Went to see Andrew at Archers a month ago very helpfull and ordered all the new bodywork and a full cage.
I am putting all the photos of the build on Flikr see here:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1703354@N21/ Feel free to use any pics there will be many more. Hope these are of interest.
Cheers Peter in Scarborough.
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Pierre Lequeux
15 Sept 2011 |
Re: 2080 PO
Hi Martin, Just to update you ~ the car went to Birmingham to Archers where Andrew is already starting to work on a mould for the bonnet ! Hopefully I'll get a few pictures by December/January for you. Also I have progressed well in tracing the history of the car and hopefully will get a few more clues whilst visiting a few stalls at the Revival tomorrow. Apparently the car may have taken part in the European hill climb championship in 1967 (I know that Starley raced at the Mont Ventoux hill climb in France on 18th June that year ~ not sure if it is any help for the FIA papers…hopefully yes…anyhow it is good to know. All the info is compiled on my site: www.cyberspot.co.uk Congratulations again on your site which is clearly the authority in Sprite information ! Kind regards Pierre. |
Trevor McIlroy
30 Aug 2011 |
Re: Ian Walker manifolds
Martin, the Ian Walker inlet manifold I have is for an A series BMC engine. Perhaps the simple answer is Ian Walker Tuning made manifolds for the BMC A series as well as Ford and Lotus.
Thanks for the information supplied.
T.McI Belfast. |
David Morys
26 Aug 2011 |
Re: Ian Walker
Hi, I believe that Ian Walker's son Graham is racing quite successfully in the Team's Gold Lotus Elan 26R. The cars had a central green stripe. I think they also built and raced the Shapecraft Elan coupes with aluminium bodies - just like Sebrings!
I don't believe they raced internationally and one is still in existence.
I can't help much on the manifold but the Ford connection seems about right.
Kind regards
David
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John Sprinzel
25 Aug 2011 |
Re: the Ian Walker manifolds.
After his time with the Sebrings, Ian - who was a very good personal friend of mine - started a tuning business and also ran race cars, with Paul Hawkins, who had begun to race professionally. They mainly worked on Ford and Lotus, I would imagine this manifold was from Ford range.
Ian's previous business was model making, doing those model aircraft that you used to see in every travel agent's window.
cheers J
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Julian Yell
12 Aug 2011 |
Sebring Mark 2
Martin, Here are the pics of my Sprite, [see Latest News] I restored it 25 years ago, and it has survived really well (photos taken this week) however I am ready to re-do it to concours and have had thoughts of turning it into a full Sebring MK2 replica, per Moss, Innes, Rodriguez, McQueen. I am cautious however about losing its ongoing history, so I may evolve it and keep it roadgoing, in its original colour, but to Sebring spec with all of the period brake parts, 100 rollbar, engine mods, wire wheels etc. We will see, it will become either a full Sebring replica or a period road going special. The DHMC hardtop by the way is superb and I would gladly take close-ups if required. Any marks on it are just dirt from storage and it polishes superbly. Kind regards Julian.
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Graeme Henderson
26 July 2011 |
Re: Fitting Caterham rad, dash, oil cooler and adj rear shocks to his Fastback.
Martin, No events yet as the car is still not finished. I know that in the last pictures I sent you it looked near completion but I was only at the fitting up stage and it all came apart again for final fettling. I have now reached the wiring stage and have used a standard Frogeye loom as a basis and modifying to fit from there. Dashboards are almost complete see pic. The other major task was fitting a Caterham Alloy and plastic radiator (£190) and fan (£84). This is a much cheaper option than the replica original radiators out there and the fan controller is built into the rad top with several temperature ranges available, The fan fits the rad with lugs that are on the rad much neater than the Kenlow set up. As you can see you have to do away with the original radiator uprights (weight saving) and it sits further forward than the original allowing access for timing the engine etc. The rad sits closer to the cowl in the Sebring bonnet to get max air flow. Oil cooler position now finalised as you will see. I think that is us up to date so please post the pics in my build section on the site. Also I should mention that I do have the adjustable rear shocks from Peter Caldwell fitted to the car and am about to enquire about a set of rears for my Big Healey as well. The build quality is excellent and of course with the stainless steel parts and proper sealing they should last quite a while.... All the best, Graeme.
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Neil Anderson, Illinois, USA
24 Jul 2011 |
Re: Front shock absorbers
Hi Martin,
This is kind of interesting. Thought you might enjoy seeing it.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/special-report/the-class-of-1960
I have been wanting to give you a little information on the front Armstrong
adjustable shocks that Graeme Henderson has fitted on his Sebring. I
recognized them from the front suspension photo posted on his page from your
site. They were developed by a guy, Peter Caldwell, that I know who has a shock
rebuilding business about 100 miles north of me in Madison, Wisconsin. He
is quite an interesting guy. He was one of the organizers for the 50th
Spridget event that I just went to and was also a tech session presenter for
us last year at our Conclave Healey event. I met him a couple of years ago
through a mutual friend.
He knows a lot of info about suspension set-ups and such and developed these
adjustable shocks. He has also developed rear adjustable shocks too,
because, as we know, the original rear Armstrong adjustables are just about
"unobtanium".
I don't know the rules on competitive events in the UK and Europe,
especially FIA rules, so I don't know if they would be legal in some
instances. But, Graeme must think they will be allowed for the events he
plans to participate in. You can set them for street use for the drive to
the event and then reset them for competition at the track or hill climb.
Here is a link to his business: http://www.nosimport.com
The adjustable shocks are not listed on his "shock page". I am not sure how
long ago they were developed. He said he has been selling quite a few
units. A competition car race group is using them in Europe. He is also
selling them through Peter May, making them with a bracket to be used with
Peter May's front damper top link kit.
Let me know if you would like more information on these adjustable shocks.
Kind regards,
Neil
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Renaud Vendel
7 Jun 2011 |
Re: MG Mecca
Hello,
First of all, congratulations for the new website design. It is easy to navigate and it's very nice to have all these details and history about each and every car. And some of the pictures posted can be really helpfull.
I'm glad to see the pictures we took of Steve's WJB 707 and replica Sebring back online ; If you need them, I may have a few other ones from this visit we paid him to collect the Sebring body kit.
I recently checked the MG Mecca website, and shortly after I saw your article about Rene Bloemen's cars, and the MG Meca link. I was surprised at first to see them offering Sebring replicas for sale, but had my explanation through your page. It looks these cars are exact copies of RTL (fiberglass ?).
But my question is : do you know where these door openings come from ? I've never seen this 'bean form' type, and do not know where to look for them.
I'm looking forward the Midget 50 celebrations, and seeing JJO and the other Sebring Sprites there. Unfortunately, our own replica is far from ready, and won't be included in the 'clock' display !
Maybe we will meet on Sunday among all these Midgets.
regards from France,
Renaud Vendel
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Charlie Clegg
3 Jun 2011 |
Re: Le Mans
Hi Martin, I hope you are well and congratulations with the new website - looks great. Thought I would just send you a quick message to let you know that my father and I will be racing in the support race to the Le Mans 24 hrs next week in S221. I will let you know how we get on and of course if any of the Sebring Sprite gang are going out to watch do come by and say hello! I hope you have had a chance to get your Sebring Sprite out and about so far this summer? I am currently having a new race engine built by Janspeed for 184FGJ so unfortunately have not got
behind the wheel yet in 2011, but planning to do a couple of races later
in the season. Anway I hope you have a good weekend and I look forward to catching up soon at some Sprite related event!
Kind regards,
Charles
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Mike Wylie
27 Apr 2011 |
Re: "Flying on 4 Wheels"
I have attached a copy of the front cover of the book referred to in the article sent to you by Neil Anderson. The book was published by Patrick Stephens Limited in 1986, and I suppose it is likely that copies can be obtained through the familiar internet sources. I note that the International Class Records were set on 13th April 1960, but that the Speedwell GT (VP 7) used by Graham Hill was the one usually raced by John Venner-Pack and from the text appears to date from 1959 in GT form. For simplistic reasons, I suppose it is in my self-interest to prove that the Speedwell GT pre-dated the more iconic and practical special bodied Sebring Sprites created by John Sprinzel, and to which your site is rightly dedicated. It seems to be that the first Sprinzel car, with a 'Sebring' front, but still a conventional hardtop, was finished in time for the November 1960 RAC Rally, and would have had its 'tailored' Williams & Pritchard roof with curved windscreen fitted some time after this event.
The Speedwell Streamliner was based on VXT.523, that had started life as a more ordinary Frogeye and must have been a sort of Speedwell Works Runabout. As such it is shown in a photograph in Chris Harvey's book 'MG and Austin Healey Spridgets' - from The Oxford Illustrated Press - 1983, fitted with an earlier type of Monza front, with the headlights behind plexiglass fairings and an unfamiliar straight swage line running back from the top of the front wheel opening. This would suggest that there was a degree of experimentation until the definitive Monza bonnet was born, and that this took place some before the GT was created.
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Christoph Klamert
23 Mar 2011 |
Re: Fly-off hand- brake
Dear Martin,
Congratulation to the new website. I am not through everything yet but it is really well done.
If you have two more pawl assembly kits available I would happily buy them for my cars. If you could tell me the total amount incl. p&p to Austria and your banking details (bic and iban) I could transfer the amount.
Do you know anybody who would sell me complete set of brake items needed to convert the rear to Sebring specification (8in) brake drums?
Kind regards
Christoph.
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Michael Meerlo
22 Mar 2011 |
Re: His Sebring Fastback's engine
Hi Martin, On your question about the motor, well the valve springs were binding so that the camshaft had no lobes left on it the folwers were badly damaged and the pushrods were bend. The strange thing is that the engine still was pulling strong but it never reached the bhp figure it should have, only 85 while it shoud be closer to a 100. Now I don't realy care about bhp but 15 less is a bit much. Lucky we found it just in time before there was more damage to the motor. They had left the locating washer for the inner valvespring in place and when you use the longer rockers it will bind, so we took them out and just as precushion we changed the oilpump and the mains where checked on marks, it is thourogly cleaned and there is a new oilcooler installed. Now everthing is back togehter and it runs again. So we have to wait and see. Andrew has really bin great in giving advice and knowledge about how to deal with it. So 2 thumbs up for him, he knows his way around with A series. I hope indeed the papers for WJB are coming soon, then finally Stephen can take WJB for a spin after such a long time and can feel again how it is drive it. Cheers, Michael.
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Pierre Lequeux
22 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website
Hi Martin,
Great update of your website, top mark and as ever great source of information...on my side still dreaming about getting my full steel bodied car..but no luck so far...
Kind regards
Pierre
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Mike Wylie
21 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website, Replicas in Ireland, and Homologation Papers
Dear Martin, I am full of admiration for all the time and effort you must have put in to upgrade your Sebring Sprite website so significantly. Marvellous effort! Secondly, I am so pleased to see my old friend, Trevor McIlroy ( and George Wilkin whom I don't know so well) bringing some more Sebring Sprites to Northern Ireland. I suppose we were all inspired by the Speedwell of Adrian Boyd and the Sprinzel car (52 LPH) of Chris Williams, brought to Northern Ireland by Peter Johnston for 1962 Circuit of Ireland, and owned since then (about 1963?)by Ronnie White in Armagh as detailed in 'Spritely Years'. Trevor was volunteer mechanic on my last big rally with 505 BZ, the Corse Retro 40 in 1996, and I'm pleased to see that he has at last fallen into line! I am left to wonder what has happened to a Replica Sebring that was being built in Newry by John Girvan's brother in the mid-1990s. Presumably this must have been an early kit from Brian Archer, and it must be around here somewhere. Trevor may know. Finally, I can offer you copies of copies of a few Homologation Papers collected over the years, also making the point that if you are getting the same papers from Tom Coulthard, some of his may be copies of mine and even less clear. I will scan them to whatever requirement you nominate in PDF form if required. Any way I can help in any way, do please let me know. Michael.
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Pete Taylor
21 Mar 2011 |
Re: Streamliners and WSM Sanction II
Hello Martin. I am in Florida at the moment and I have few things to report.
There is a race in Texas in June where Steven Coleman's Streamliner will be driven by Clive Baker once again. The Targa Florio car from Japan will be in the race too.
The Author Bill Emerson has commissioned a sanction 2 WSM, being built in the UK. He has sent a rust free Sprite over from the USA as the donor car.
Andrew at Archers Garage is making progress with the two Streamliners and we would live to be able to show our car this year, even if only a rolling shell.
I have spoken to John Hill of S.Carolina on the telephone. Did you go visit him when you were over here ?? Regards, Pete
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C.A.
20 Mar 2011 |
Re: Cape dashboards
Hi Martin,
Good to hear from you.
Sorry, I am afraid the dashboard fell off my urgent “to do” list.
Work and the house and creating some space in the garage have taken
priority. Far too many commitments and too little time and space to do
them!
Actually I am selling my Healey championship winning Frogeye as I just
don’t have the time to get it out and use it. (Also I have a 3000 race
car sitting waiting to be finished, which has been sitting in the
garage for far too long…) I have already sold off most of my small
mountain of shells and spares….
I would think by the summer I will get a chance to mould some myself.
I know its not a big job, its just finding a weekend to make up the
mould and produce a couple!
Best regards
C.A. [I had asked him how the dashboards were coming on, as several people are keen to have one - MEI]
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Michael Meerlo (Holland)
20 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website
Hello Martin, How are you, I want to congratulate you with the new sebring site,- it must have been a lot of work to change over from the old to the new. I like the new set-up, it looks smart. My car is coming along engine is up and running again, Andrew has it now in the spraybooth for the touch ups and I hope to get it back by the end of April. Speak to you soon. Cheers, Michael
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Mark Wilson
19 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website
Hi Martin,
New site's looking good - I hold you and Andrew Forster entirely responsible for a mid life crisis of Midgets, Sprites, rust and Mig welders.
Best regards
Mark Wilson
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Nick Conklin (USA)
19 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website & fly-off handbrake
Martin, Nice Job!!!...I've been cruising around your site, very nice. I am interested in that parking brake mod you have, what would it be with shipping for me out here in California?..Nick
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Peter White (NZ)
18 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website
Hi Martin,
You have done a great job.. Your web-site certainly has helped me in
staying motivated and in the detailing of my Sebring Sprite project during
it's build. A big thank you from me.
Regards
Peter. [The page about Peter's car will return shortly MEI]
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John Hill (USA)
15 Mar 2011 |
Re: Pit-stop photo
I found my scanned copy of the pit stop with me standing next to John. The note with the picture says "Note Graham Hill in the background". I asked John about the pictures that had been on his web site and he said they were not his but YOURS.
Do you know who is the person standing a way back between John and myself? [Am not sure which photo on the site John refers to, as yet. Photo 1? Photo 2? MEI]
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John Hill (USA)
15 Mar 2011 |
Re: 1411 WD
I was looking at some stills taken from my 8 mm movies, which I was panning the MGAs in the pits before the start of the race and ended up with a good looking Sprite (#72). Today I was looking at your site trying to be sure 61 (Falcon Sprite) started with a windscreen and did not have one later. John Sprinzel said on your site there was none at the start. But if you enlarge the "start" picture, you can make the outline of the screen. I contacted S. Moss to ask if he told them to remove the screen. He answered back that " he could not remember after all he had been 695 races and was 81 years old. He said he would check his notes but they were in England and he was in FLA" Oh, yes the #72 Sprite had a tag number 1411WD and was a good looking blue.
See the attachment. John.
[See Latest News]
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Peter Fellows (Australia)
12 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website
Hi Martin.Good luck with the upgrade of the web site .I, as well as many others around the world appreciate all of the time that you spend on it. Each day when I check my email I always visit the "Sebring" site to see if you have put up any more news. Many thanks Martin.
Regards. Peter. |
Andy Sollis, Notts TSSC Webmaster
12 Mar 2011
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Re: Sebring Decal
Hi,Saw this on your website and it said to contact you if interested ? I have a Williams & Pritchard Sebring GT Fastback on a Triumph Spitfire 1500 and have been looking for something like one of these to go on my hard top. Although not original, I think it would just set it off nicely.
Please could I have more details of where these can be obtained from (Other that the racetrack in the States)
Regards
Andy Sollis. [Am ordering some decals for him, MEI]
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Alan Anstead
11 Mar 2011 |
Re: IOW Sebrings
Hi Martin. A picture I recently received from Kent Masc member Crispin Whiting. The Keith Bradings IOW Frogeye factory with a Sebring Coupe. Alan. [See Latest News]
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Christoph Klamert
9 Mar 2011 |
Re: Sebring Brochure
Dear Mr. Ingall,
I am searching for a copy of the original Sebring Sprite brochure which was available from John Sprinzel back in the 60s. Following your fantastic web site for years I thought you might know somebody who might sell either an original brochure or at least could provide a copy of the four pages? Hoping to hear from you or maybe meet you personally at the goodwood revival 2011. Kkind regards from Austria. Christoph.
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Neil Anderson
8 Mar 2011 |
Re: Cars for sale
Hi Martin, Here are a couple of links that have come through my Healey email lists recently.1958 Lenham bodied Sprite:http://bringatrailer.com/2011/02/24/monte-class-winner-1958-lenham-bodied-ah-sprite/ This next car, (WSM Healey 3000) I never knew existed and therefore have never seen any photos. There was a report from a guy in Australia, and he said that Tony Wilson-Spratt had been trying to buy the car back. He had not heard from Tony to find out if he was the person who purchased it at auction.http://classiccars.brightwells.com/viewdetails.php?id=2195 Have a good day. Neil [Tony was not able to buy it but it stays in the UK] |
Alistair Gilchrist
7 Mar 2011 |
Re: Sebring for sale
Martin,
I found this, I don't know if it is original but a bit pricey for a replica
http://www.sportclasse.pt/detalhe_exposicao.php?id=74#leaf
and
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C188206/
regards Alistair.
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Ian Grainger (to Ken Grazing)
7 Mar 2011 |
A response to a query about fitting the healey 100-4 anti-roll bar, as used on early Sebrings
Hi Ken,
Martin Ingall has forwarded your email about the Sebring Sprite Anti-Roll to me as I have an original Sebring Sprite which still has its original ant-roll bar and fittings.
I hope the enclosed photograph explains the set-up. As you can see the only reinforcement to the wishbone is a rectangular piece of metal ( there is a similar one on the inside of the wishbone), which are drilled to accept the anti-roll bar link and the two bolts. All very simple!! Incidentally, to make an original anti-roll bar link you need a rear link assembly with the bush which joins to the shock absorber cut off and the shaft threaded.
I hope this helps. If you need any more info, please get in touch.
Regards
Ian.
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Ian Grainger
7 Mar 2011 |
In response to my query as to how to build a good motor for super-charging.
Good Morning Martin, I am running a 266 profile cam with a low compression head and a 978 cc block. The distributer was rebuilt by Aldon to match this spec. As you are aware the supercharger was originally supposed to be used with a standard engine albeit with a low compression head. I'm not sure if this is any help, but good luck with your project and if I can help further, do get in touch. Regards Ian.
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Trevor Mcilroy (Belfast)
6 Mar 2011 |
Re: 317AOV & Midget 50
Martin, read the ex Alan Hastey/Kim Dear car 317AOV is now in Northern Ireland, perhaps you could pass my Email address to George Wilkins.
I take it you got my email expressing an interest in displaying XXC818 at the Midget 50 event.
regards
Trevor McI.
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Mike Wood (to Graeme Henderson)
5 Mar 2011 |
Re: Body fixings
Hi Graeme, Many thanks for replying to my request for information on how to join grp bodyparts to Sprites. Thank you for the pictures of the joined Frogeye rear body. Apart from the rivets into the B post and rear floor, am I correct in assuming that there are two or three layers of chopped strand mat (CSM) and resin fibreglassing along all the connections between steel and the grp? And the grp Sebring roof at the bottom of the front windscreen surrond is bonded with a few layers of fibreglass internally and rivetted externally the same way, but with the external rivets covered in body filler? Or is the join to the front steel scuttle is only fibreglass? I guess the bonding of the grp roof to the grp rear is done like grp repairs by grinding the joint out at a very shallow angle to create a V of about 3" wide which is then filled using layers of CSM with resin, tissue and resin and body filler. Is there much metal kept behind the B pillar, maybe with holes to effect a large area for GRP joining, with boding through the holes as well as over the top of the metal? Thanks Mike.
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Mike Wood
5 Mar 2011 |
Re: Body fixings & website
Martin, Many thanks for sending me John Makin's magazine article. Thanks too for forwarding my details to Graeme Henderson. Graeme has already replied - what a great networking, as well and information tool your website is. Good luck with the website restucturing - sounds like a lot of work, as well as the time you put into updating. Best wishes, Mike.
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Graeme Henderson
5 Mar 2011 |
Re: Body fixings
Martin, There were no contact details for Mike Wood in his question regarding fixing the Sebring body to the chassis. Firstly he should take advice from Andrew at Archers plus look at some of the other cars being built pictures attached to there articles on your site. He will see pictures like the ones I have attached of my own build to see where and how they have been attached. I live in Aberdeenshire if he is interested in contacting me. Best regards, Graeme Henderson [I have put them in touch]
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Mike Wood
5 Mar 2011 |
Re: Various
Hi Martin, Thanks for the reply and putting my assorted requests for info on your website. Can you please e-mail a copy of John Makin's article on WYT381 that you mention on your webpage for this car. On the grp front, I've got hold of a combined reprint of two excellent long-put of print Osprey books on grp car repair and painting by Miles Wilkins of Fibreglass Services, Arundell who knows all about Lotus body repairs including the monocoque Mk1 Elite. This book - How to Restore Fibreglass Bodywork & How to Restore Paintwork - is available from Lotus Books in Germany; see:http://www.lotus-books.com/additions.html and order form: http://www.lotus-books.com/order.html
Good luck with the website reconstruction. Do please keep lots of the car info and pics, including projects and completed replica info, as well as updated news pages - they are what makes the current site great. A short - tounge-in-cheek - how to guide/recipe to recreating a Sebring Sprite would be fun, based on the experiences and pics showing construction details you've already got ('first start with a rusty shell, a welder and panels, add in panels from Archers and an idea from the website or grainy photos of what you want to recreate ...'), including the FIA homologated historic racer route on a Frogeye and quest for correct brakes etc, or the use 1275cc Spridget base with its discs as a donor for road or hillclimb. A bit more on what competition work people have got up to in replicas, as well as the orginals, would be good too. Best wishes Mike.
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Kai Eriksen (Norway)
5 Mar 2011 |
Re: Website
I'll wish you luck with the new web-site. I think Version 2 has been very good too. I'm working with my replica to get FIA approvement. It's not easy and I'm looking forward to see some FIA homologation form on your web-site. Thanks to Craig Chapman who maks it possible to get an alloy top. Regards Kai.
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Alan Anstead
4 Mar 2011 |
Re: WYT 381
Thanks for this Martin. Still trying to find out what the badge is/was that was fixed to the radiator grill. A club badge perhaps but for what club. If you are in contact with Paul Wollmer could you enquire. I may still be on the grill. Alan |
Derek Stewart
3 Mar 2011 |
Re: Midget 50
Hi Martin, Would you please include me for the 'Midget 50' event. Although the car is still being assembled it should be ready as only(!) the mechanical bits need bolting on. Saw the Tifosi SS at Race Retro and thought his basic product looked quite good. Rgds Derek
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Laurent Derancourt
2 Mar 2011 |
Re: Ashley Bonnet
Hi Martin,
How are you?
Are you sure the front is a W&P It looks like my Ashley front but with a modified buble on top of the rocker cover -
same nose and same flanges. Link cheers
Laurent.
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Pierre Lequeux
1 Mar 2011 |
Historic Sebring
Hi Martin,
Many thanks for forwarding this to Butch. He since has been in touch with me, however (probably due to the pedigree and quality of the car)the price of USD 140 K
+ shipping remains out of reach for me. Many thanks however for taking the time to look into my query.
Kind regards,
Pierre.
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Butch Gilbert USA
1 Mar 2011 |
Re: Historic Sebring
Thanks for the lead. I will email him with the updates. I have done nothing with the Sprite except taking it to a couple of vintage races just to run it around the pits . Hope to do much more now that the year of bad health is over. You web site keeps growing and looking better all the time ......keep up the good work.
Best Regards,
Butch Gilbert.
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Mike Wood
27 Feb 2011 |
Re: Various
Hi Martin, Interesting. 'Getting into Minis' - sounds like BMC Works Dept in early 1960s moving away from large and small sports cars! On another subject, it would be interesting to see how people have bonded Sebring tops, Peel and Frogeye rears to steel rear floors, scuttled and B posts, and what an MoT tester and an IVA person would make of it. Are you building another car? I noted your request for Riley 1.5 parts on the Midget and Sprite Club wanted webpage. Best wishes Mike. [The Riley brakes are wanted for Ken Grasing in Oregon]
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David Pratt
24 Feb 2011
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Re: Replica
Can I start by saying its a Great enthusiasts web site. I am number 68 on the replica list -
I picked up my fastback kit on the 14/07/10. Mmy plan is to use a basket case MkIII sprite Reg no LKK511F but upon purchasing it blind Ii found the bodyshell is actually from a 1500. However they are very similar apart from additional strenghening to take the rubber bumpers which i am drilling out and a few smaller bits and pieces.
Regards
Dave
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Charlie Binyon
20 Feb 2011
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Re: Speedwell Sprite
I bought a 1959 Speedwell MK 1 Sprite back in 1972, it was painted in Yellow, had a Monza style fibreglass bonnet, and an opening bootlid. it had a "Speedwell" badge on the rocker cover, but this might have originally been on the bodywork. I bought it from a man in Twickenham from the "Exchange and Mart". I never knew anything about its past, if it had one. in the intervening years, it has been modified and repaired a lot, and is now undergoing a complete restoration with a steel frogeye bonnet, and the rear boot opening has gone. so the only original bit still there is the Speedwell badge on the rocker cover, but I remember the Monza bonnet, and buying a steel bonnet to replace it from a scrapyard for a fiver.
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Nick Conklin (USA)
15 Feb 2011 |
Re: Shorrock bulge
Hi Martin, My Shorrock setup is exactly like the one in the pic, same pop off valve arrangement. I have been communicating with John (Sprinzel) in Hawaii and he explained to me that the teardrop bulge was only used on the carb variety for clearance and that the bulge was a Speedwell development. He explained that the scoop was a Works mod (as Ian also states). He also said that later when he ran the supercharger he would shave the dashpot down while still leaving enough threads for the top, and also shaved some of the brass off. This he says allowed for the needed clearance(too tight for my liking). The Shorrock kit that was later offered must have differed slightly from the earlier version in that it clearly stated that no body mods were needed (again in line with what Ian states) I am not comfortable with the shaving so I will have the "scoop" duplicated from the pics I have. Thanks Again, Nick
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Michael Roberts
14 Feb 2011 |
Re: Replica
Hi I currently have a Lotus Elise and have become a little bored with it. My daughter has written off her MG TF135 which I am breaking for spares. I have been thinking of a K series midget for years and as I have the engine I am considering selling the Lotus and building a Sebring Coupe with disk brakes and uprated suspension. My question is would a K series engine fit under the bonnet with its lower profile.
[My answer was: YES]
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Dean Powers (USA)
14 Feb 2011 |
Re: Replica
Martin, good to hear from you. Unfortunately not much progress has been made towards completing the car. I just today received the seats from Archers. The car was at a friends shop and he got really involved in another project so I will be moving the car hopefully this coming weekend to a new fabricator to complete the preparation of the shell for painting.
The gearbox has been completed it is a ribcase straight cut close ratio. I have a 1275 A-series that I acquired from the guy I got the Girling brake setup from many years ago. When I was there he told me he had another Sebring brake set up. My jaw dropped about 2 feet on hearing this news. He said he would rather have them go to a friend than on to eBay so I was able to get the complete set up for $200!!!!!!!!! I think Andrew may have already told you about this but it was a great find.
I will get some pictures together and send them off to you of what I have done so far. I am going to try and push to have this project completed by August. Hopefully I will have much better luck with the new shop.
Cheers,
Dean
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Neil Anderson (Chicago)
13 Feb 2011 |
Re; TFR 5
Hi Martin, I am including a couple of Sprite related things that may be of interest to you. The first is an advertisement relating to the Sebring race (year not mentioned), but this could be 8427 UE with its Les Ireland hardtop. I had never seen this ad before, so I purchased it on ebay. You may reproduce it if you wish. The second inclusion relates to something I found in one of my “Healey” boxes while looking for something else. I found an article that was published in the May 1984 issue of our Healey club magazine “Chatter”. It is an article (see attachment) on TFR 5 (LWD 959E) , the 1967 Targa Florio Sprite, and in 1968, the Sebring car running the rare XSP petrol injected engine with a cross flow head. The article was written by an Englishman, David Pratley, who became friends with a couple who helped found the Austin-Healey Club of America. He lived in the Chicago area in the late 1970s and, I believe early 80s. I joined the Healey club in late 1980, but never met David. Since finding the article again (obviously, I was quite intrigued) I have been trying to do more research on the car and on David Pratley. I reread the sections in Geoff Healey’s book “More Healeys” about TFR 5 and its Targa and Sebring race history as he reported. I also found, through Google, that TFR 5 may be in Japan and still raced in vintage events. I found a Japanese website that has some info about the car and a Youtube video of TFR being raced in Japan. Here are the links: TFR5 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ra2PW9Ndw What a beautiful Sprite! I would be interested in your comments about the race driving from the in-cockpit view of the race. I wonder if this has a 5-speed gearbox. It almost doesn’t look like it. Anyway, I hope you enjoy looking at all this if you haven’t seen it before. I became more interested in this Sprite since I didn’t see anything yet on your website about the late “works” cars. I also called my friends, Chuck and Edie Anderson (no relation to me), who were friends with David Pratley in Chicago to try and find out if they have any contact info for him. They have lost contact with him and unfortunately, do not have current info, but said that they think he lives in the London area. I would assume that you might like to talk to him about the time when he owned TFR 5. Supposedly, he sold the car quite some time ago. Hopefully, the Anderson’s may be able to find him. All the best, Neil. |
Ian Grainger
11 Feb 2011 |
Re: Shorrock bulge
Hi Martin, I'm sure I've covered this in previous correspondence with Nick. The only 'Works' Sebring Sprite to be supercharged was 7080 AC. This was a standard bodied Sprite, but had the earlier Shorrocks supercharger with the safety valve angled slightly 'off centre', but more vertical than later superchargers, hence the need for a 'bulge' in the bonnet. A photograph of the 'bulge' appears on page 156, and of the supercharger, on page 157 in 'Spritely Years'. Hope this is of help. Regards Ian
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Nick Conklin, USA
8 Feb 2011 |
re: Shorrock bulge
Martin, Do you have a picture of what the "Shorrock Bulge" looked like on the factory cars?, I do have a good pic of the scoop but would rather have the bulge. I have the car all sorted out, runs like a top, dual exhaust is a screamer and the supercharger looks great installed and functions very well, I am in the final stage of fitting/sorting out and the bonnet is the last issue before a teardown metal finishing and respray. I'll take some pics and forward them on to you. Looking closely at the car it seems that it was originally Old english white, then it was painted a metallic blue, then BRG.
Nick Conklin [passed this on to Ian Grainger]
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Pierre Escudier
7 Feb 2011 |
re: Replicas
Dear Sir,
I am very interesting about sebring sprite, is it possible to have your catalogue about the replica
parts available from archers garage and wheeler davies.
thank you for your answer
very warmly.
Pierre Escudier
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Trevor McIlroy
6 Feb 2011 |
re: Website
Great January News page Martin. Good to see the pictures & notes on all the current replica/restoration projects.
Keep up the good work.
Trevor McI. XXC818. Belfast.
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Mike Wood
6 Feb 2011 |
re: WYT 381 & Donor Car
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the very interesting and enjoyable Jan 2011 news page on your Sebring Sprite website.
Seeing the progress that Gordon Higgs has made from a tired MkIV Sprite donor is really inspiring. I remember his first post and thinking what a challenge, but with a great approach, using an attainable AH donor with good engine and brake spec.
Also hearing the auction news on one of the originals is great too. The detail, enthusiasm, news and dialogue on your website sets it apart - thanks.
I have started to collect bits for a replica close to the open ex-Barry Shawzin rally car: That pic [of the car on the Lyons-Charbonnieres] sums up small 'big' healey!
At the moment a leaky lock-up, house move, lots of work travel on trains (wondering if I can sneak an Archers Sebring front into the luggage compartment!) and part-time studying restricts car fun. But I am on the long term look out for an affordable donor - ideally a Mk2.5 Sprite, but a MkIV would do - that isn't 500 miles away from me in Ayrshire.
Hope you are well.
Best wishes,
Mike
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Pierre Lequeux
2 Feb 2011 |
re: Historic Sprites
Hi Martin
Many thanks for providing us with such a great website. I am always eagerly reading the updates and being impressed by the wealth of information you gather. I am currently on the look out for a standard bodied frogeye (such as no 53 (butch Gilbert) or 2214 UE equivalent in its early days specifications...). To that instance I wonder if you know about any sale going on. I would possibly consider importing the car if it has the right specs. Any helps, tip appreciated.
Kind regards,
Pierre.
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Paul Slangen
2 Feb 2011 |
re: New Replica
Your Website is very nice and loaded with news from history but also from nowadays. Due to this web-site I could learn more about the beauty and strength of the magnificent Sprite and Midget racing conversions. I have ordered 1.5 years ago a fastback with Monza bonnet at Archers garage and bought all the body panels from Racers of Kent to build my own Lenham Sprite. (It will be like the one of Peter Warren). As a passionist and hobby restorer of classic cars I am always checking your site for news. Hope you can continue this site for a long period. I will visit Andrew Forster within 2 weeks and will make some pictures of the progress of the car. If you are interested, I can send you some pictures. Best regards, Paul H.L. Slangen from Belgium.
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Gary Lazarus
(Editor of
Mascot magazine)
31 Jan 2011 |
re: 777 EBH - Alexander Sprite
On returning from a wonderful day out on Saturday where I was honoured to able to join a small group of motor racing enthusiast who were entertained all day, by the evergreen and truly wonderful Murray Walker, I had the additional joy of being contacted by the owner of one of the original Alexander Sprites. The car is now only a few months away from completion and is a very early Mk1 Sprite with a Vin number in the very low 800's being within a couple of Jonathan's old Frogeye.
The only image which I'd previously seen was a black and white one showing the car with a standard frogeye body with the familiar Alexander white stripe down the side. The current owner has sent me an image of the car in period with a fastback, as well as a photo of it "as found" in a bush. Do any of you have any additional information on it which I could pass on to the owner (and very recently joined member of the Midget & Sprite Club)?
Particularly who is likely to have built the body?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and will also help to build a future article.
Kind regards,
Gary.
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Alan Anstead
29 Jan 2011 |
re: WYT 381
Hi. I have just bought 'Les Healey dans les Alps' by Herve Chevalier and WYT381 is pictured but what is the club badge on the grill? Can I have a copy of the article you mention and might I plunder some of the info from your website as I was going to do a piece on the series of books, by this author, for Mascot. Alan.
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Gordon Higgs
23 Jan 2011 |
re: Coupe Replica
Hi Martin. I hope 2011 finds you well. I'm sorry its been so long since my last mail. I've been keeping busy on the sprite build. It seems I've been waiting for ages to get her into the paint shop - a small local business called Lone Pine thats been in the same family since the early 1950's. They specalise in high class and classic cars. My Sprite was in outstanding company. While she was in, there was a Shellby Mustang bare shell waiting for paint, two Aston Martins and a Rolls Royce not to mention the 1930's Bentley body parts being painted in cellulose! After our earlier mails I did some searching through our extensive paint colour information at work to see if I could throw any light on the Tartan/ Alfa red question and I found there were several Tartan reds so I've chosen a lighter Tartan. It probably is not the same as PMO 200 but I like it and thats what counts! I'll call it Gordon Tartan! HaHa! The Sprite is home now so the long build-up process can start. All the suspension parts have been plated and powder coated overhauled and are ready to refit. I've enclosed a few more photos for you to update your site. Thanks for all your hard work on the site. Its good to see what other people are up to and very useful as a reference. Regards Gordon
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John Sprinzel
11 Jan 2011 |
re: 2214 UE
Looking through your web page, I can still hardly believe that 2214UE is still around - after my rallying on the Liege and German Rallies half a
century ago, John Patten's drive with Paul Hawkins on the RAC and then
Mike Reid's efforts with the Octagon crowd, I wonder how many bits can
still be original. Good fun though, to see what the cars managed. I read
the auction brochure on the Hedges cars and the huge list of owners. Did
Donald and Geoff ever imagine their little car could stand up to so much
for so long?
Hope you are well and having a good New Year, in spite of what I hear
about your weather. Aloha, John
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Andy Chaffey
5 Jan 2011 |
re: New Coupé
Martin. I drove up to Archers today and ordered my bonnet/coupe top / front and rear and screens. Andrew was most helpful and I really enjoyed seeing the cars there. Andy.
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Lauren Derancourt
29 Dec 2010 |
re: Amicale Sprite & Midget Club, France
Dear Martin,
I wish you a happy new year.
I have changed my blog to permit translation in to English.
You just have to click on English to get the translation:
www.spritemidget.com Cheers.
Laurent
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David Morys
26 Dec 2010 |
re: RTL 304
Hi,
Seasons greetings and best wishes for the new year.
I have three photos of the Chris Keeble Sprite registration RTL in the paddock at Silverstone at the main MG day on two occasions - both in the nineteen nineties.
I know Chris - we both had MGC GT's.
I have a '59 Frogeye now and I was able to purchase the Spritely Years book from you earlier this year.
I found the link to the two Targa Florio Sprites and was always interested in TFR7 which I had always dreamed of finding tucked away somewhere in a Florida garage unloved and forgotten.
It was interesting to find it ran in period at Sebring in 1970.
Best wishes for the new year and keep up the good work on the website - I am in Broadway, Worcs and the ex-Moss Sebring (S221) plus the other replica (184 FGJ) live just up the road. I may have the odd photograph of other cars that might be of interest. I seem to recall having one or two of one of the ex Sebring Mk 2's which used to turn up quite regularly at Prescott where I competed with a Mallock and another unique clubman's car. I think this was perhaps the practice car but the owner's name eludes me at the moment. Anyway I have attached the three pictures which Chris reliably informs me were 16 and 17 years ago respectively. Chris swapped the 13" standard wheels for 14" 72 spoke competition MGB wheels. I thought the first year was 1992 but there you go! Kind regards,
David
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John P. Hill
24 Dec 2010 |
re: Sebring & Le Mans
Looks like John Sprinzel pulled all his photos when he put out his book. In the new promo pics, I am standing next to him and he tells about Graham Hill in the background. Another shows him with the drivers, the same one I have shows me to the right looking at the car. The comment on one of the pictures was that cars were back from the race, but they were parked after after the clutch swap , ready to go TO the race. He said I was a NASA technician that did maintaince on the cars, but I was actually an electrical engineer with North American working on the space program. ersons that really did all he claims. A little check of BMC and Healey history will show the bare chassis were sent to the Healey factory, and Roger Menadue reworked them including fitting special bodies. The first was a kit car made using a "Falcon" body, English not American. In fact that chassis had three bodies used on it. I DO NOT know this to be a fact, but I believe BMC required the race cars to look like street cars and allowed only prototype car to run. And the street car bodies were set, so no big changes. There were some bitter feelings between the two groups. Enough of that, I have , or will make some JPEG files and send them to you but not tonight! John
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John P. Hill
23 Dec 2010 |
re: Sebring & Le Mans
Hello Martin, I do not know what happened to the article, but my photos have shown up on the John Sprinzel web site, though the captions are incorrect. Attached is my prelim copy of the article, including a photo of me at Daytona in my MGA-TC. These are for you to use as you want. All the Sprite pictures were taken before the race. If you go to Sprinzel site, there is picture of him talking to the driver with a caption stating that Graham Hill is standing in the background, BUT I am standing next to John. Merry Christmas. [see John's article "Article for sprite Mag" on the Articles page]
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John Hugenholtz
9 Dec 2010 |
re: RTL 304
I brought RTL304 back from the UK to Holland in the '80s having bought the car in South of London for Dutch dealer Tonio Hildebrandt.
I drove it on the road with an open exhaust to Sheerness for the ferry to Vlissingen. MY wife was driving our rental car which I dropped off in Sheerness, I was forced to store our luggage in the Sprite and the spare wheels on the roof as it went on the boat. In Vlissingen I had my road car and trailer and the car was taken to my home in Overveen (nr Zandvoort). It had a 1,293 Cooper S engine at the time. I think I tested it once at Zandvoort but never raced it. I sold it to Ecury. Wonderful to see it's still out there and looking lovely.
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Trevor McIlroy
4 Dec 2010 |
re: XXC 818
The car is now stripped to a rolling shell, bodywork dismantled, panels prepare and primed. The body is to be re-sprayed in original colour OEW. There will be various modifications during the rebuild which I will up-date you with as we go along. If you can add the attached pictures to Gary's oringinal ones it may be of interest to other folk, how the car is progressing. I personally like to look at all the rebuilds to pick up tips from the modifications carried out. Merry Christmas. Trevor
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Dermot Healey
Nov 2010 |
505 BZ and 52LPH "My contact with Sebrings consisted of regularly looking at the lovely 52LPH in the early 60's, when I was an 11/12 year old, and it would sit in Joshua White's garage in Armagh when it was being rallied by Ronnie White. I think it was previously raced in the UK by Chris Williams? Some years later (1970ish) I came across the ex-Adrian Boyd 505 BZ in a very depressed state and encouraged a fellow student at QUB to buy it. I remember driving it back to Belfast against the sun with zero visibility through the horribly scored Perspex windscreen. Later I took on the task of bodgingh the brtakes and electrics to get the poor thing useable...of sorts. Nice to see that both 52LPH and 505 BZ survive. Best regards Dermot Healy. |
| Neil Anderson |
"I spotted in a recent issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine that one of the '61 Works Cars recently came up for auction at the Mecum-Monterey auction in California. It was unsold at $50,000. An average selling price was said to be $17,500.
The car seems to have deteriorated since the photos I have were taken.
The value represented here is based on a regular production Bugeye Sprite, not the factory lightweight pictured here. This was part of Briggs Cunningham's 1961 assault on Sebring, where it finished 8th. According to documents, it was one of 4 that emerged from the experimental shop at Warwick where it was fitted with alloy doors and a fiberglass nose and rear body section. It was 'restored to perfection', which is merely opinion when the windshield surround needed replacement, the knock-offs had road rash, the paint on the hood (bonnet) was cracked, the right side number ring was cracked and lifting, and the rest of the exterior trim had tarnished. At least the bolt-in roll bar was present". |